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| New Member Posts: 16 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Watford, UK |
13-05-2008, 09:15 PM
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It seems 2 years has passed, but the feature is still in the wind? We really need this feature ... or we need to find an alternative product which supports it - suggestions? Jon FidoNet - http://www.fido.net/ - Official Kayako Reseller tel: +44 845 004 3050 / fax: +44 845 004 3051 Contact sales@fido.net for pricing and licensing info | |
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| Operations Manager Posts: 7,373 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England, UK |
13-05-2008, 09:38 PM
Hi Jon, The feature request is in the "Will Implement (V4)" forum, which means that the feature is marked for implementation in Version 4. Therefore, please do not expect it before Version 4 is released. Thanks, -------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Senior Member Posts: 5,247 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai, India |
09-03-2009, 02:15 PM
I think this is being worked on in v4. Nevertheless I second this. +1
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| Senior Member Posts: 7,557 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cumbria, UK |
15-05-2009, 07:01 AM
It is planned for V4 as far as I am aware. TOTALLY agree with /category/something else/something else. Jamie flagged me down on this, though. 4th post on System -> SEO friendly URLs he replies to me. I strongly disagree with this, however. We went on advice from two SEO experts when building our software - Viper Cart. The fact that one of the sites powered by the software appears on page 2 for a popular keyword speaks for itself -> collagen cream - Google Search (9th down - ItsElixir.com). This is the same for a number of keywords that were not previously anywhere in the first 10 pages when using like just /blah-blah.html Click here for Kayako Software Development My Addons: BlackBerry Ticket Client for Kayako - Windows Mobile Live Support Client for Kayako |
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| Operations Manager Posts: 7,373 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England, UK |
15-05-2009, 09:39 AM
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Presales /> Purchasing and Licensing /> Payments /> [Article] 1) Most of the parent categories aren't optimal - they are general, by their very nature of being a parent category. Therefore, intuitively the words in the upper most parent categories do not have a direct relation to the article, and as far as SEO is concerned, are a waste of space. 2) The URL starts to become too long from a usability perspective: www.domain.com/support/knowledgebase/presales/purchasing-licensing/payments/payments-by-paypal - copy and pasting is a pain, e-mail spam filters weigh against long URLs, etc. 3) Back onto SEO, too many words in the URL get weighted less, and 4) Prominent keywords get diluted (again, talking about proportionality). Here it is from Google's search and spam lead himself: Quote:
So, it would make sense for us to ensure there is some cap on the length of the entire URL. We'll see; it has a number of design implications. Obviously, we will strip stop words and look at term stemming. We may end up going with the full trailing category slugs (stemmed or truncated), or just the tails - both have important design implications which may outweigh SEO benefit. We are researching knowledgebase design and implementation considerations, and will make the choice that balances between SEO, usability and longevity. It pays to understand science behind SEO, as well as the art of it. I personally do not think that anyone is an SEO 'expert' unless they can explain things like trustrank, LSI, TF-IDF matrices, fractal summarization etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Senior Member Posts: 7,557 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cumbria, UK |
15-05-2009, 10:39 AM
There was a similar arguement about this on the X-Cart forums. On one side was Jon @ Website CM who makes X-Cart SEO - Custom Dynamic Search Engine Optimization (CDSEO) Pro for X-Cart and John @ SafetyNet Web who makes X-Cart Mods - Dynamic Search-Engine-Friendly URLs PRO - XCART SEO - XCART MODS - X-CART Customization - X-CART Mods - X-CART SEO - X-CART Services Jon @ WebsiteCM clearly proved that his solution worked much better than DSEFU using the longer URLs. Click here for Kayako Software Development My Addons: BlackBerry Ticket Client for Kayako - Windows Mobile Live Support Client for Kayako |
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| Operations Manager Posts: 7,373 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England, UK |
15-05-2009, 10:45 AM
I didn't say that DSEFUs were not the best solution; they are the best solution. However, there are many implementations of them, and involve a mix of technologies and algorithms. If you believe that URLs of no length cap (long URLs) are better, then I disagree. So does Matt Cutts from Google, and a vast majority of other reputable SEO consultants.
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| Senior Member Posts: 7,557 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cumbria, UK |
15-05-2009, 11:35 AM
What would you define as long, Jamie?
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| Member Posts: 72 Join Date: Dec 2005 |
29-08-2009, 07:59 PM
so its now 3 years past when we were told the feature was already implemented and at this pace, were probably another year off of getting v4. So were going to have to wait 4 years to get a feature that we were already told was implemented? Talk about shady.
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| Operations Manager Posts: 7,373 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England, UK |
29-08-2009, 08:37 PM
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V4 Update #1: Roadmap and interface peek | Kayako Blog Quote:
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| Member Posts: 72 Join Date: Dec 2005 |
09-09-2009, 02:55 AM
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| Member Posts: 1,223 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Boise, Idaho |
10-09-2009, 09:43 PM
SEO friendly pages were implemented in v3 in 2006. That's not the same thing as SEO friendly URLs, which we're implementing in v4. That was about meta tags and so forth. We're updating the URL situation in v4. |
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