blackberry ?

[Jamie Edwards]

Hi Solokron,

Thanks for sharing the session check instructions.

Blackberries are certainly not outselling WM devices; in 6 months, Windows Mobile have sold twice as many WM devices than there are Blackberry users.

[craigbrass]

Blackberries are certainly not outselling WM devices; in 6 months, Windows Mobile have sold twice as many WM devices than there are Blackberry users.

Yup, didn't think the other information was true.

[ffeingol]

Originally Posted by Jamie Edwards

Blackberries are certainly not outselling WM devices; in 6 months, Windows Mobile have sold twice as many WM devices than there are Blackberry users.

Not to get into a pissing match, but what facts are these conclusions based on? I was doing a bit of research and keep coming across this graph Mobile Phone Development Blog Archive Q3/07 Smartphone Market Share for market share for Q3 2007. While I would agree that WM based smart phones are ahead of BB it certainly does not look like double. iPhones have certainly eroded both markets.

[Jamie Edwards]

Hi ffeingol,

I was going by this - in 2007, RIM reported the Blackberry user number was to reach 8 million soon: Research In Motion

And here, Microsoft projects an increase from 11 million units shipped in 2007 alone to 20 million in 2008: Sony Ericsson makes major move in Palm's footsteps. Wise decision? - Treo and PalmOS news and here: Microsoft boast 14.5m Windows Mobile handsets sold in last 6 months where Microsoft reports 14.5 million WM units sold in 6 months.

[craigbrass]

From what I have seen and read of Windows Mobile 6.1 and 7 too, Microsoft are making them dead easy to use too in an attempt to get the mass market to buy them as something to organise their life with...

With any luck they will fix their bluetooth stack too and then the Parrots (bluetooth car hands free kits) will stop insisting I am in a call when I start the engine!!! grrr

[ffeingol]

OK, I understand now. I don't look at "sales" figured. If I have a WM device and I replace it with another WM device that is +1 sale but no change in market share. I prefer to to look at market share vs absolute sales.

In a hosting organization (i.e. smaller company) WM is a lot easier to deploy. In a bigger corporate environment I think you'll find a lot more BB (but I don't have any facts to back that up other than experience). BES (blackberry enterprise server) just makes it a whole lot easier to manage remove devices, upgrade them, restrict what they can do and even wipe them out (when they get lost).

[michael123]

Windows Mobile is more popular than Blackberries